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Basement leak water pipe

RandyMolson

Close friend of Keyton
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The meter is about a 1/4 mile away. I don't know how far the sleeve goes, but I know it goes at least 4' if not 5' away from the house. If I cut the sleeve (and thus the copper), I don't have any way of getting to the copper that's still in the cut part of the sleeve to attach new copper. Obviously I'm not going to dig the entire pipe up myself. Therein lies the problem.
It is unlikely that they cased the copper very far, but they would do it for a full pipe length.
 

Ardvark

Well-known member
DO NOT SEAL ANYTHING!!!!

you are just pushing the water somewhere else, you need to stop water source or divert the water
 

Ardvark

Well-known member
based off the mold and green stuff on the brickwork, there is a water issue in that corner of the house
 

Ardvark

Well-known member
my wt way of diagnosing it would be to put a couple sheets of plywood in there to form a ramp top push all rainwater away from house and see if it makes it better, I would have left that area open also until a rain storm to see what happens.

how quickly does it flood, how quickly does it pour in when raining, does it have to be a long and hard rain
 

wct097

Director of the JUOT Center for Excellence
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Super Moderator
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When the hole was still there, the water was flowing in at the sleeve while the outside of the foundation was completely exposed to air and had no water puddling against it. The issue is not water coming through the foundation. It's simply not possible. In addition to water flowing in at that point when the outside pipe was surrounded with nothing but air, the outside of the foundation has been treated with waterproofing sealant in a 5x5 area around the pipe.

To illustrate:
 

Ardvark

Well-known member
I don't see how the water is getting in the casing at a rate like you decribe.

Open that hole up. Cut the casing off with a small hand operated tube cutter. See if your theroy is correct.
 

Jays89YJ

Udaho
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I don't see how the water is getting in the casing at a rate like you decribe.

Open that hole up. Cut the casing off with a small hand operated tube cutter. See if your theroy is correct.
A 1" supply line at 40-50psi tends to generate a lot of water. If the line is split inside the casing, it'll get stuff wet.
 

BirdOPrey5

Staff member
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When the hole was still there, the water was flowing in at the sleeve while the outside of the foundation was completely exposed to air and had no water puddling against it. The issue is not water coming through the foundation. It's simply not possible. In addition to water flowing in at that point when the outside pipe was surrounded with nothing but air, the outside of the foundation has been treated with waterproofing sealant in a 5x5 area around the pipe.

To illustrate:
 

wct097

Director of the JUOT Center for Excellence
Staff member
Super Moderator
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Water only leaks during/after heavy rain. Reworked the gutter drains and the drain tile drains to ensure that water from around the foundation is properly handled. Front yard is landscaped in such a way that water is diverted away from the front of the house.

It's definitely coming in from inside the sleeve? Not around the sleeve?
Has to be. The sleeve had air for 8" around it and still had water coming in the same place.
 

Jays89YJ

Udaho
VIP
If you've ruled out a leaking hose bib and the water isn't running between the outside wall of the sleeve and concrete on the interior side of the foundation, ok.

It sounds like there's a chance there isn't a hole in the water pipe. Perhaps when it rains, water leaches into the ground and at the start of the casing, furthest away from the house, water seeps inside the casing. Perhaps the casing and pipe slope down towards the house and the water that seeps into the casing runs into the house. If this, the best fix is at the start of the casing with an elastomeric fernco fitting.

Then again, perhaps there's an issue with the brick facade not draining properly or water penetration from above and water has worked its way down exposed rebar (or a crack) at the sill plate which is very close to the sleeve penetrating the foundation.

Either way is going to be a PITA, but think the first scenario would cost less to fix.
 

wct097

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Still leaks on occasion. Plumber gave a reasonable quote to address the issue given the pictures I showed him. Haven't had time to address it as mom's a school teacher and is back at work. Plumber was out yesterday to address a leak in the water pipe itself. Appears to be a leak at or near the meter (1/4 mile away from the house). Ground was very wet. Last I heard, the meter was off and water was still flowing in the house 20 minutes later. Never heard back what the resolution was last night.
 
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