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Basement leak water pipe

wct097

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What was wrong with my links? I think dns for that domain is just flaky on the global scale.
 

Ardvark

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Do not seal the inside until it is fixed. This just pushes the problem to the foundation
Btw it has nothing to do with chase

Chase isn't designed to keep water out. Just to protect water pipe and make replacement easier
 
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Ardvark

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In the first pic to the right and a little lower. Is that water coming through foundatio or from the pipe area
 

Jays89YJ

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Does that pipe feed the hose bib directly above it?

Is the brick a facade or is it structural?
 
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BirdOPrey5

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What was wrong with my links? I think dns for that domain is just flaky on the global scale.
I'm seeing broken images, but the website from juotpics.com was able to "see" the images so it could make a copy. Yes, likely DNS issues.
 

wct097

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Brick facade.

Pipe does not feed the hose bib above.... this is the water supply from the meter to the house.

Water is absolutely flowing through the chase from 4' or more beyond the foundation. We excavated several feet out to the point that the exterior portion of the chase was in the air with a gap between the bottom and the dirt. Water was not pooling against the foundation and was still coming in the same place. It has to be coming through the chase.
 

RandyMolson

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Looks like a copper pipe in a steel casing. I can't imagine the casing pipe is very long. They probably used an 8-10' length of steel casing pipe to protect the copper carrier pipe when they were constructing the house.
 

wct097

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Not sure to be honest. Maybe to keep the copper from rubbing against the steel chase while the foundation was open before fill dirt was added around it.
 

Jays89YJ

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That is not a chase, it's a sleeve or casing. If you know for a fact, the water is coming from within the casing, replace the mother****er already and stop pissing about. It's been a ****ing month with water leaking into the ****ing house. FAIL.
 

wct097

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That is not a chase, it's a sleeve or casing. If you know for a fact, the water is coming from within the casing, replace the mother****er already and stop pissing about. It's been a ****ing month with water leaking into the ****ing house. FAIL.
The casing extends for at least 5 feet beyond the foundation. No clue how far as digging up the yard 4' deep by hand to find the end isn't doable right now. Could be 1/4 of a mile long for all we know.

I'm thinking about trying something like this. The B&G guys used it on an electrical conduit that was flooding the first floor when water was filling the electrical box up the hill from our building. Had to be a 3" pipe with 20' of head for the water to flow down from.

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it would seem to me that you have a case of galvanic corrosion. they should never have used a steel sleeve to bring copper into the house. I am betting that they used a rubber sleeve (hence the hose clamps) to prevent the two metals from touching, but that seems to have failed.

Turn the water off at the street cut the copper, remove the steel, and redo the sleeve with PVC. If you have enough space you may be able to slip a section of PVC in the steel and then bring in the copper through the PVC.
 

wct097

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The meter is about a 1/4 mile away. I don't know how far the sleeve goes, but I know it goes at least 4' if not 5' away from the house. If I cut the sleeve (and thus the copper), I don't have any way of getting to the copper that's still in the cut part of the sleeve to attach new copper. Obviously I'm not going to dig the entire pipe up myself. Therein lies the problem.

The plumber said that it was leaking around the chase due to the gutters being clogged. He was wrong. We dug it up and sealed the foundation around the sleeve to no avail. Obviously we don't want that asshat coming back as he can't even diagnose the issue correctly.
 

Jays89YJ

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Dig a hole 4' to 8' away from the current hole in the direction of the pipe (just step it off) and see if the steel casing exists.
 

wct097

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...or I could try the far easier method of using the polywater ductseal stuff which, if successful, would keep us from having to dig up the yard.
 
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