ATTN: Proud southerners

[eRAD1cator [JU]]

care to back that up??
The CSA's strong point was it's leadership. Lincoln wanted LEE to lead the northern armies becaure he KNEW he was the best. Lee was against slavery, but could not "raise up a hand against my native Virginia" The South's generals were (and still are) considered military geniuses for what they were able to accomplish with VERY limited numbers of men and supplies. If the north had the South's generals, the War would've lasted months instead of 4 years.

The north won the war because we had a better economy.

Where do you guys go off saying that blacks and whites in the south worked side by side??? Your acting like they were equals. I know whites and blacks worked side by side but those were the poor farmers that needed to work with the slaves just to make a living. But at the end of the day if the white worker wanted to leave and do something else he could. The slave had no rights to do anything except what his master told him to do.
You also fail to mention about the brutal plantation owners, bet they didn’t work side by side. And if the south was soo compassionate to blacks why didn’t they accept them as equals after the war??? Oh yeah that’s right you prevented them from voting, using the same public utilities as whites, and basically keeping blacks in poverty.

 

[DILLINGER [JU]]

The north won the war because we had a better economy.

Where do you guys go off saying that blacks and whites in the south worked side by side??? Your acting like they were equals. I know whites and blacks worked side by side but those were the poor farmers that needed to work with the slaves just to make a living. But at the end of the day if the white worker wanted to leave and do something else he could. The slave had no rights to do anything except what his master told him to do.
You also fail to mention about the brutal plantation owners, bet they didn’t work side by side. And if the south was soo compassionate to blacks why didn’t they accept them as equals after the war??? Oh yeah that’s right you prevented them from voting, using the same public utilities as whites, and basically keeping blacks in poverty.

Many of those blacks didn't want to leave their homes and owners.
And , of course the Union had a better economy. They burned the southern economy out one barn at a time on marches thru the land. Duh.

Research it, pal. They weren't allowed to vote in the north, either. Till the passage of the civil rights legislation allowing them to do so everywhere.

Don't get so caught up in a big lie written by a carpetbagger's revisionistic history lesson.

 

[chevtech [JU]]

Many of those blacks didn't want to leave their homes and owners.
And , of course the Union had a better economy. They burned the southern economy out one barn at a time on marches thru the land. Duh.

Research it, pal. They weren't allowed to vote in the north, either. Till the passage of the civil rights legislation allowing them to do so everywhere.

Don't get so caught up in a big lie written by a carpetbagger's revisionistic history lesson.

Dill-hole brings teh funnay to logical thought as a whole.

 

[Josh [JU]]

Go ahead and get caught up in the truth written by the victors history lesson. And why not? If they were smart enough to hand us our ass, they may as well tell us where that ass belongs.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[chevtech [JU]]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[DILLINGER [JU]]

Didn't say that it was just about slavery. Zcubed just said:




That notion is ridiculous as it was written as one of the main reasons to succeed by the Southern States.

By some lousy northerner carpetbagger.
In reality, it was over taxes on rural products and services, as well as the south having no votes in the matter and being treated much as they are today by a bunch of dumb carpetbaggers.

 

[eRAD1cator [JU]]

Many of those blacks didn't want to leave their homes and owners.
And , of course the Union had a better economy. They burned the southern economy out one barn at a time on marches thru the land. Duh.

Research it, pal. They weren't allowed to vote in the north, either. Till the passage of the civil rights legislation allowing them to do so everywhere.

Don't get so caught up in a big lie written by a carpetbagger's revisionistic history lesson.

Never said the north treated blacks as equals. I am just saying that you shouldn't paint the picture that slaves like it in the south.
While the north didn't treat blacks as equals, they wanted a free labor economy where people decided where they wanted to work.

Southern writers tried to paint the picture that they were saving blacks from the horrible conditions of Africa. Bring them here and showing them the light of christanity....

 

[Josh [JU]]

By some lousy northerner carpetbagger.
In reality, it was over taxes on rural products and services, as well as the south having no votes in the matter and being treated much as they are today by a bunch of dumb carpetbaggers.

Hmm. I always thought you were the type to grab control of your destiny and damn the rest. And here you sit and complain like a southerner who just got bested.

Don't like the rules, re-write them.

Oh wait, you guys tried and failed miserably. Guess complaining is the best you can do.

 

[BillR [JU]]

The north won the war because we had a better economy.

Better economy? The north certainly had more raw materials and more factories, and the South's economy was primaraly agriculture like cotton and tobacco. So the north's economy was more suited to making war. The north also had an overwhelming advantage in manpower due to the large population centers located there.
The South was outnumbered in men and supplies, pure and simple. They (The South) could never win a war of attrition against such a large force.

 

[eRAD1cator [JU]]

What was so bad about carpetbaggers?? They brought modern industrialized capitalism...
"Oh no here comes efficient production. Let’s all resist it and go back to our ass backwards ways of agriculture."

 

[eRAD1cator [JU]]

Better economy? The north certainly had more raw materials and more factories, and the South's economy was primaraly agriculture like cotton and tobacco. So the north's economy was more suited to making war. The north also had an overwhelming advantage in manpower due to the large population centers located there.
The South was outnumbered in men and supplies, pure and simple. They (The South) could never win a war of attrition against such a large force.

??? your just proving my point that the north had a better economy

 

[Josh [JU]]

Better economy? The north certainly had more raw materials and more factories, and the South's economy was primaraly agriculture like cotton and tobacco. So the north's economy was more suited to making war. The north also had an overwhelming advantage in manpower due to the large population centers located there.
The South was outnumbered in men and supplies, pure and simple. They (The South) could never win a war of attrition against such a large force.

Agreed. Bill, you really aren't making much of a case for the poor (human freedom stealing) farmers.

 

[BillR [JU]]

Agreed. Bill, you really aren't making much of a case for the poor (human freedom stealing) farmers.

But it's already been stated here several times, and is widely known, that the War of Northern Aggression was not solely about slavery. It was about states rights primarily. VERY few of the farmers actually owned slaves, and Lee himself was opposed to slavery.

 

[thecroat1 [JU]]

Here is a fine example of blacks and whites working side by side in the pre-Civil War south:

 

[Josh [JU]]

But it's already been stated here several times, and is widely known, that the War of Northern Aggression was not solely about slavery. It was about states rights primarily. VERY few of the farmers actually owned slaves, and Lee himself was opposed to slavery.

I know of no "War of Northern Agression."


And not having the means to own slaves, but desperately clinging to the "right" to do so, even while a select few choose not to doesn't change anything.

 

[eRAD1cator [JU]]

Here is a fine example of blacks and whites working side by side in the pre-Civil War south:

 

[XJ Matt 5.9 [JU]]

even while a select few choose not to doesn't change anything.

what would it not change?

 

[BillR [JU]]

??? your just proving my point that the north had a better economy

Better for war making. The South had their share of affluent people, if total income is the standard. The South's economy was strong, but in a different way. MANY people in the north were jealous of the way the wealthy landowners lived in the South.

 

[Josh [JU]]

what would it not change?

The fact that "proud southerners" are racists.

 

[Josh [JU]]

MANY people in the north were jealous of the way the wealthy landowners lived in the South.

Agreed. That's why we legalized slavery in the hopes we could get ahead as well.




Ooops, maybe not.